Curse

Ikari · Sep 15, 2006, 03:21 PM // 15:21

I actually was playing in RA the other day with my Shocksin, and I was on a team with a monk using PnH, another sin, and a toucher. The monk placed PnH on the toucher, and seeing as he only used skills and spells, he gets a free energy pip. Toucher + 4 e-pips = won, 21 streak.

gasmaskman · Sep 15, 2006, 06:09 PM // 18:09

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Originally Posted by PanGammon

Who in their right mind uses peace amd harmony for anything?

A bonder, maybe?

SnipiousMax · Sep 15, 2006, 07:14 PM // 19:14

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Originally Posted by Zuranthium

No, they still suck with the new update.

But ago ahead and try spamming those EXHAUSTION spells at me. I'll just laugh and kill you when every cast past the first or second is doing barely any damage and not causing any conditions.

They're actually really good for a short engagement. A very heavy offense, and a very short battle would make these skills great. Mind shock at least, I'm not sure I can label anything from the fire line as widely useful...

El Panty Bandito · Sep 15, 2006, 07:39 PM // 19:39

I say Second Wind has to be one of the worst Elite skills around.

cerb · Sep 15, 2006, 09:15 PM // 21:15

Amity is not crap, people.

In HA, have a W/Mo with Amity aggro everyone, then, when everyone is adjacent, use Amity. Make sure your team don't deal damage.

On a serious note though, I don't think Wither or Keystone Signet are THE worst elites. Yes, they suck horribly, yet I wouldn't nominate them for the worst elite award until I saw Primal Rage and Seeping Wound.

Let's take a look at Primal Rage:
For 10 seconds, all of your attacks have an additional 10...46% chance of being critical hits and have 20% armor penetration. Primal Rage disables all skills for 10 seconds.

It would be really good if it didn't disable all skills, but it does, and for 10s. If you could use Executioner's strike, Final Thrust or something else with a high damage output while being in this stance, it could deal a lot of damage, however, you can't. Now, which are you going to choose: this or Eviscerate?

Next, Seeping Wound. This one gets my vote BTW.
For 5...17 seconds, if target foe is suffering from Bleeding or Poison, that foe suffers -1...3 Health degeneration.

I have nothing else to say than lol. This skill would be considered crappy if it wasn't an elite, yet it is. Oh, and it belongs to Critical Strikes (wtf?)

Isil`Zha · Sep 15, 2006, 10:16 PM // 22:16

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Originally Posted by Thaddeus Bandito

Throwing up a vote for Ether Prodigy. Though it has advantages, like +6 energy regen, the caster takes 2 damage for every point of energy that's left. If it gets stripeed as it's cast, An ele with 16 ES (that has 90 energy) takes 160 damage + whatever the strip may do. Worst Case Scenario: Ether Prodigy gets stripped with Shatter Enchantment (16 Dom) = 266 damage immediately. There are ways to avoid this, but this is a spell is a trap.

Also, I give an Honorable Mention to Shadow Form. "All spells fail and all attacks miss." Cool, but when it ends, it leaves you with 53 health. Unless you have Divine Intervention, Recall, or something of the like, you're done for.

Heart of Shadow + Dark Escape or simple a shadow step to saftey...

I use it quite a bit on several builds - mostly with Arcane Echo... used in Aspenwood you can run up to the NPC gate guards and slaughter them with impunity.

Also, on Kurz side it makes for a nearly unstoppable amber runner - I can turn it on, *cap the mine from lux* and run off with the amber.

With the newly buffed Shadow of Haste, I'll be able to find more uses for it too.

lennymon · Sep 16, 2006, 12:20 AM // 00:20

cool, ether prodigy, now with more damage...
still its not as bad as seeping wound, or archers signet...
keystone? there are more signets every chapter, this will eventually become more usefull, but at least it's got A viable build.
Wither?, me/n for alliance battles... fun with touchers

and I like touchers...

Misc Merik · Sep 16, 2006, 01:08 AM // 01:08

Locusts fury

ive used it to some success for pve but it has yet to give me any edge in pvp

Song Rui · Sep 16, 2006, 06:37 AM // 06:37

Locust's Fury isn't bad. You are just too fixed on gimmix.

DarkRaider · Sep 16, 2006, 06:49 AM // 06:49

ok sit back, this might be shocking....

I ACTUALLY USED KEYSTONE SIG

combine it with signet of weariness, signet of humility, Mantra of Inscriptions (important),leech signet, signet of disruption(?) and a few energy skills

it isnt too bad =/

LOBAL 2 · Sep 16, 2006, 01:40 PM // 13:40

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Originally Posted by CagedinSanity

Eh, this is one of those things where "One man's junk is another man's treasure" situations. Personally, i felt so happy when I capped my first elite skill, only for it to turn out to be nothing i'll ever use; Warrior's endurance.
Don't need, kthx.

your right about the junk and treasure because Warriors Endurance is nice for a energy tank, better than battle rage for maintaining a heavy DD pressure,but it doesn't have the speed boost, which can be very helpful.

I think Quivering blade is horrible, IMO.

I Brother Bloood I · Sep 19, 2006, 07:18 PM // 19:18

Defiant Was Xinrae Zomg Why Havent U Said Yet!

Hyper Cutter · Sep 19, 2006, 11:17 PM // 23:17

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Also, I give an Honorable Mention to Shadow Form. "All spells fail and all attacks miss." Cool, but when it ends, it leaves you with 53 health. Unless you have Divine Intervention, Recall, or something of the like, you're done for.

I was once run throughout the southern Shiverpeaks by a sin who used Shadow Form and then Arcane Echo'd it (he also used various shadow steps), so I'd say it's at least got some use...

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Heal As One

It'd actually be useful if the recharge was shorter...

some guy · Oct 02, 2006, 06:25 AM // 06:25

Primal rage is really good if you combine it with IWAY.

darkdawn · Oct 04, 2006, 09:48 PM // 21:48

quick shot. called shot is better and isint elite...

BlueNovember · Oct 05, 2006, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Flopjack · Oct 06, 2006, 12:09 AM // 00:09

LOL! Elite mending, ha ha.

Most of the elite you people mention are good, you just suck with them it sounds like.

I think Healing Hands is a pretty gay spell. What it SHOULD do, is heal all their allies around them too in a nearby or area range, like an elite healing seed deal.

How about Withdraw Hexes. Expensive and hard to use.

gasmaskman · Oct 06, 2006, 06:43 AM // 06:43

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Originally Posted by darkdawn

quick shot. called shot is better and isint elite...

Quick Shot > Called Shot because:
1) Called shot recharges at 3 seconds
2) Quick Shot only takes one second to recharge, AND it only takes 1 second to attack, unlike the lowest of 2 seconds on a short/flatbow.

scamPOR · Oct 06, 2006, 09:50 AM // 09:50

primal rage has to be the worst skill... it disables all your skills. WOW AWFUL!

Zui · Oct 06, 2006, 09:54 AM // 09:54

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Originally Posted by scamPOR

primal rage has to be the worst skill... it disables all your skills. WOW AWFUL!

Yeah, and it makes your Warrior worse at everything that makes him good. Unless your opponent is absolutly retarded, in which case he stands still while you hit him, and you only loose everything that makes your Warrior good, except for slightly added pressure.